Ukraine’s president has told Sky News that his country cannot stop the war against Russia on its own and said nations must act now before it is “too late”.
Speaking to Sky News’ Alex Crawford inside the leader’s office in Ukraine’s capital city, Volodymyr Zelenskyy reiterated his call for the West to impose a no-fly zone.
He accused countries of being indecisive on the issue of “closing” the skies against what he called “the Nazis” – and said of Western nations: “You can’t decide to close or not to close… you can’t decide.
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“If you are united against the Nazis and this terror, you have to close. Don’t wait for me ask you several times, a million times. Close the sky.
“Close the sky and stop the bombing,” he said, appealing for the world to act faster.
Asked about Western concerns around the potential of a no-fly zone escalating the conflict, and bringing about a direct confrontation with Russia making it worse, he said: “Worse for whom? For our families? No… For them..? Who knows? Nobody knows. But we know that exactly that now is very bad. And in future it will be too late.
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“Believe me, if it’s prolonged this way, you will see… they will close the sky but we will lose millions of people.”
He added: “The third world war will start and only then you will make a no-fly zone – but it will be too late.”
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He said that Russian forces “can occupy us but you definitely can’t win”, saying Russian President Vladimir Putin was “going directly to hell”.
He said that NATO allies should not have to tell people in Ukraine who lost their children “sorry we didn’t do it yesterday , one week ago. We didn’t push Putin, we didn’t speak with him a lot, we didn’t find the dialogue with him. We did nothing and it’s true, yesterday the world did nothing… I’m sorry, but it’s true”.
Dmytro Gurin, a Ukrainian MP, challenged NATO and European countries on which line Russia had to cross before they got more involved.
He asked: “Is the blood of the Ukrainian people red enough?
“Putin won’t stop with Ukraine and the West could end up with a war on its territory too. You now have to choose.
“You will ask in two years when they are bombing infrastructure in the middle of Europe – why didn’t you close the sky?”
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Would a humanitarian no-fly zone work?
Evelyn Farkas, former deputy assistant secretary of defence, said a military no-fly zone would be too risky.
However, she added: “A humanitarian no-fly zone does not require taking anything out on the ground or in the air unless it intrudes.
“So, some of us have called for a humanitarian no-fly zone in order to enforce humanitarian corridors.”
Ms Farkas admitted NATO jets would have to attack Russian forces that broke such a rule – but that it could be possible as Mr Putin is not keen on a war with the blok.
On the suggestion of Poland handing over jets to give to Ukraine to use, she added: “If one option is providing fighter aircraft to Ukraine then that’s also a potential means to achieve that objective.
“I don’t regard that as being escalatory. Although every time we have these public debates, Vladimir Putin comes out and makes a statement saying this would be tantamount to war.
“When indeed he’s already said our economic sanctions are the equivalent of waging war on Russia.
“So we should really keep our own council and have these conversations in private – government to government.”
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Is Zelenskyy prepared to make a deal with Putin?
Asked if he was prepared to make a deal with Mr Putin, he said that dialogue is always a compromise.
Ukraine alone cannot end the war, he said. “It’s the decision of two countries and two peoples and the decision of two presidents – and one of them is Putin, so we’ll see.”
And speaking about whether he thinks staying in his role and remaining in the country was the right decision, he said he thinks it would be difficult for Ukraine to remain united in the face of the Russian onslaught.
“I think my decision was right,” he said. “Who knows. We will see in future.”
Speaking after days of siege in the southern city of Mariupol, Mr Zelenskyy said Russia is treating Ukrainians like animals by blocking access to basic necessities.
“They want us to feel like animals because they blocked our cities. The biggest cities in Ukraine and they blocked (them) and because they don’t want our people to get some food, water.”